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Organic Maps
Organic Maps
@organicmaps@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

We're working on live public transport schedules as the first step to public transport routing. Here is the helper web app that shows currently supported GTFS feeds in different countries and cities and helps to match bus/tram/train stops from OpenStreetMap.org with stops from GTFS: https://gtfs-osm-matcher.organicmaps.app/
If you are interested in public transport schedules in your city, please let us know about feeds for your place/country, and help by adding/editing stops in OpenStreetMap.org

Bus stops in Germany that are present in GTFS, but not present in OpenStreetMap.org
Bus stops in Germany that are present in GTFS, but not present in OpenStreetMap.org
Bus stops in Germany that are present in GTFS, but not present in OpenStreetMap.org
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@bart@mastodon.fam-ribbers.com  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps _Please_ use Transitous for this data. Sure you don't have to let them calculate the route, but at least use their data rather than fetching and parsing GTFS feeds yourself! These kind of projects have to work together rather than doing the same work again.

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Organic Maps
Organic Maps
@organicmaps@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@bart thanks, we’re already looking at it. The main difference is that we also want to improve OpenStreetMap.org map data quality by providing community with a tool to add missing stops, or correct existing ones.

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@bart@mastodon.fam-ribbers.com  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps That's good to hear and makes complete sense 👍

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@mfdz@chaos.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps We‘d like to invite you to present your plans at the #OpenTransportMeetup and exchange wit the open transport community. Meet the folks from @transitous and other public transport projects there to coordinate efforts. @CoMaps, you are invited, too. https://github.com/transportkollektiv/meetup/wiki#welcome-to-the-german-open-transport-meetup-wiki

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@rugk@chaos.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps
Of cool, will @CoMaps integrate that too?

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@DiegoUvieu@sociale.network  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps GTFS for Asturias, region in northern Spain. https://nap.transportes.gob.es/Files/Detail/977

Ficheros | NAP

Muestra detalles de ficheros; comunidad, medio de transporte, tipo de transporte, agencias incluidas, número de viajes, número de rutas, número de paradas... Así como diferentes formatos de descarga.
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@arielcg@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps Here's the static GTFS for Vigo, Spain. The only problem is the transit information is loaded as calendar_dates items and only for a few days, meaning you have to either reimport it or manually modify it to make it "long-term" somehow. https://datos.vigo.org/data/transporte/gtfs_vigo.zip

There's also a feed for Xunta de Galicia (regional transit authority), but the data quality is not great. You need to sign up (for free) to the spanish NAP to download feeds
https://nap.transportes.gob.es/Files/Detail/1386

https://datos.vigo.org/data/transporte/gtfs_vigo.zip
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@stovis@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps All collective transport in norway is available through Entur https://developer.entur.org/

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@ar_do@mstdn.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps Please also add the UK

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@homlett@mamot.fr  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps You should be able to get most of french available feeds here → https://transport.data.gouv.fr/datasets?format=GTFS&type=public-transit

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@beps@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps This is the real time GTFS feed for Torino,Italy:
http://aperto.comune.torino.it/dataset/feed-gtfs-real-time-trasporti-gtt

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@jannem@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps
Here's a GTFS data site for Okinawa, Japan. Seems to be both bus and ferry routes.

https://www.ottop.org/gtfs-opendata

And here's an API endpoint:

https://swagger.ottop.org/

Here's collected bus route data for many parts of Japan (Okinawa sourced from above I believe):

https://bus-routes.net/gtfs_list.php/

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Organic Maps
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@organicmaps@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@jannem is it the official, original source feed? Or just an aggregate?

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@jannem@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps
It looks to me the top links is from an NPO that collects and promotes open data for Okinawa.

The bottom link is an aggregator that collect such data from all over the country.

Public transport is all run by private companies here, so there's probably no single "official" collection point for an area anywhere.

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@klopf@freiburg.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps flixtrain feeds can be found here: https://www.transit.land/feeds/f-u-flixbus

FlixTrain-eu, FlixBus-eu • GTFS feed details: f-u-flixbus

This is a GTFS feed with data for FlixTrain-eu, FlixBus-eu with the Onestop ID of "f-u-flixbus". There are over 100 versions of this feed.
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Kalle Kniivilä
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@kallekn@mastodonsweden.se  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps Swedish feeds here.

https://www.trafiklab.se/api/gtfs-datasets/overview/

Overview | Trafiklab

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@Kierkegaanks@beige.party  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps good luck. Our public transport system is working on that too

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@derickr@phpc.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps It seems that for the Netherlands, you need to also use a different reference field into account as well: ref:IFOPT

See for example https://gtfs-osm-matcher.organicmaps.app/#/match-report/netherlands/selection/no-match/3479640 — the stop is there, with:

ref:IFOPT="NL:Q:41321660"

This matches the Gtfs stop Code.

Similarly with https://gtfs-osm-matcher.organicmaps.app/#/match-report/netherlands/selection/no-match/3479647, https://gtfs-osm-matcher.organicmaps.app/#/match-report/netherlands/selection/no-match/3828602, and quite a few others.

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@stoinov@federated.press  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps You can add Sofia Bulgaria to the list:
https://www.sofiatraffic.bg/en/info-center/gtfs-danni

https://www.sofiatraffic.bg/en/info-center/gtfs-danni
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@photovince@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps Just dumping this here (unable to help in the near term) but Dutch PT open data is published through

https://reisinformatiegroep.nl/ndovloket/

Welkom op de OV Data site

Startpagina van de OV Data site van REISinformatiegroep waar de OV Data volgens het Open Data Model ter beschikking wordt gesteld aan het publiek. Deze OV Data wordt verstrekt namens en in opdracht van de openbaar vervoer bedrijven van Nederland.
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@oilyfish@mastodon.sdf.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps GTFS schedule is available for Porto, PT city buses here: https://opendata.porto.digital/dataset/horarios-paragens-e-rotas-em-formato-gtfs-stcp/resource/89a6854f-2ea3-4ba0-8d2f-6558a9df2a98

Can't find real-time, though I know it exists because there are apps that use it.

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@parap@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps I haven't checked about redundancies, but these are available feed from Catalonia:

* Intercity buses in Catalonia: https://territori.gencat.cat/ca/serveis/visors-cartografia/bases-cartografiques/infraestructures-mobilitat/autobusos-interurbans/index.html#googtrans(ca|en)
* FGC (Catalan Government Railways): https://dadesobertes.fgc.cat/explore/?q=gtfs&flg=es&sort=modified
* Rodalies de Catalunya (Commuter Railways of Catalonia): https://data.renfe.com/dataset/horarios-cercanias
* AMB buses (Metropolitan Area of Barcelona) : https://www.amb.cat/en/web/area-metropolitana/dades-obertes/cataleg/detall/-/dataset/gtfs-real-time-bus-service/6332347/11692
* TMB buses (Barcelona Metropolitan Transport): https://www.tmb.cat/en/tmb-app-and-other-apps/tools-for-developers

TMB

Tools for developers - The space for developers - TMB

TMB provides information on Barcelona buses and metro in GTFS format and in real time

Horarios cercanías - Renfe Data

Horario de los servicios de viajeros prestados por los trenes Cercanías y Rodalies. Se pueden consultar en http://renfe.com

Explore — Dades Obertes FGC

Departament de Territori, Habitatge i Transició Ecològica

Autobusos interurbans de Catalunya (línies, horaris i parades)

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@arinanna@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps https://www.atm.it/IT/VIAGGIACONNOI/Pagine/default.aspx on this site you can find all the info about public transportation in Milan.
I hope I can be helpful by uploading some datas about stops in the following days underheart

Viaggia con noi

 ATM, Azienda Trasporti Milanesi

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@klopf@freiburg.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps What would a perfectly tagged Stop look like so many projects can make use of the information?

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Organic Maps
@organicmaps@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@klopf 1. Stop is on the map; 2. It has gtfs id tag(s) to match the same stop in one or more gtfs feeds.

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@cimm@fedi.suffix.be  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps Is there a manual available? I'm happy to help, and I frequently edit OpenStreetMap, but I'm unfamiliar with how GTFS is supposed to work.

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@organicmaps@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@cimm working on it. Any feedback is welcome. Check the web app, it highlights non-matched PT stops.

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@cimm@fedi.suffix.be  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps According to the OSM's wiki it seems I need to add gtfs:stop_id, gtfs:stop_name and uic_ref tags to the station node. The values can be found in the GTFS feeds (which I found via TransitLand). Easy enough!

Transitland Source Feeds

Transitland Source Feeds

GTFS - OpenStreetMap Wiki

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@organicmaps@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@cimm right! Note that there could be more than one feed in some cases for different transport agencies.

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@harry_wood@en.osm.town  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps German Transport Feed Specification

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@sohkamyung@mstdn.io  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@cheeaun Do you know if Singapore has GTFS data that can be used?

@organicmaps

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@smsm1@mastodon.green  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@sohkamyung @cheeaun @organicmaps I'm not aware of any GTFS publicly available. It needs to be converted from an API.

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@organicmaps@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@smsm1 @sohkamyung @cheeaun maybe someone can contact local government for the feed access? Another alternative is to write an api converter into gtfs format, we can also support that.

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@TrVr@mastodon.green  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps belgian rail on https://www.belgiantrain.be/en/3rd-party-services/mobility-service-providers/public-data

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@craige@social.mcwhirter.io  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

#germany should see a doctor about a cream for that, it looks _nasty_

That's great work though @organicmaps - love it!

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@yotamn@shutafem.casa  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps why not using something like Transitous?

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@organicmaps@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@yotamn we’re checking different options. To compete with e.g. Google, live PT routing should scale well for millions of users. And of course the privacy aspect.

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@shadowwwind@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps @yotamn transitious is open source, you are redoing all the work to use and find gtfs feeds. Both of you could safe massive time by cooperating

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@organicmaps@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@shadowwwind @yotamn we have different goals. To scale PT for a billion of users, routes should be calculated in Organic Maps app, not on a server.

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@shadowwwind@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@organicmaps @yotamn you can probably still use their parser, knowledge, routing engine and collection of feed urls

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@marcos@social.tenak.net  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago
@organicmaps here you have the GTFS-RT feed for Renfe's suburban railway lines https://data.renfe.com/dataset?res_format=GTFS-RT

Conjuntos de datos - Renfe Data

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