the NTP foundation (yeah the time thing) is begging for scraps of cash, like a few thousand dollars - a low level manager at amazon, google, apple and meta could each whip out the corp credit card, give them $5k each and problem solved, but no, they're too far up their own arse to do that
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@decryption NTF is willing to help you register smaller company supported donations as the company rather than as individuals. This may make it easier to convince one's employer to sponsor the donation.
They unfortunately bury the donor list.
@decryption I think most big corporations probably rely on private NTP providers like Hoptroff and don't really care for the foundation
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Another core piece of the internet that is struggling while the corporations make bilions. tiring..
@decryption I'm pretty sure also, they need actual help. It's a complex, old codebase so it's not just anyone can step in
@decryption we really need a 'fuck you giant corp' foss license that is compatible with MIT and Apache.
@decryption I sent him some cash just so they don't get out their credit cards. Enshitified Time sounds like something it would be best to avoid.
@decryption It's my understanding that the big 7 run their own time servers and don't rely on the NTP Foundation.
@decryption im no amazon employee but i can try
@decryption any low level manager in those corporations would likely be fired almost immediately for doing that. Budget is a strongly controlled thing from above.
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But we all live in democracies, have free elections and such. We can obviously vote for having essential peojects supported instead of shady deals with monopolists, right, right??? 😂
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Meanwhile, NTP allows google to track our devices even when we got rid of every gApps and other services... it probably is the most pervasive tracking method. Yet the underlying protocol still has to beg for 11k$? Wtf. Fuck off google 
@decryption I just donated. They aren't asking for much.
@decryption There goal is 11k. Any of these guys spend that much on the Friday team building luncheon. There should be a new license requiring regular donations from trillion dollar companies using the S/W.
@decryption Just donated to them and the Tor Project, which I was meaning to donate to. Thanks for the reminder.
@decryption jesus fucking christ. Pointed this out to my boss. Hopefully we'll get something sorted for them.
@decryption Donating $500 from my tiny company because it amuses me to be a better corporate citizen than companies that are orders of magnitude larger.
@decryption RfC imagine big cloud datacenters all with seconds different ntp info, an random option based on their payment amounts
#NTP, like #curl (sup @bagder ) is The Dependency in XKCD 2347
https://xkcd.com/2347/
Daniel seems to make a go of it doing bespoke paid tech support and customization work, but i wonder how many big IoT/embed device makers would need custom NTP work done.