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@Tutanota what would it apply to?

@Tutanota are you going to be quiet about its approval now? What changed?

@Tutanota We all need to keep fighting against this sinister invasion of our privacy

@Tutanota What's the likelihood of getting struck down in court (ECHR, perhaps?) as unconstitutional?

I'm holding out hope that if it gets hit hard enough with the ban-hammer, that'll set a precedent that prevents future attempts.

@Tutanota we should keep fighting, wanting to be anonymous online should be a right for many reasons

@Tutanota

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@Tutanota funny EU 👌 surely it will work, no surveillance, I'm totally not joking, EU. 💀

@Tutanota Well, I was teaching my colleagues in Russia and Belarus how to stay anonymous and circumvent censorship. Didn't expect though, that this knowledge will become necessary in the EU

@Tutanota Honestly it's so annoying...Freedom is a human right. Why do we even need to discuss about that? Age verification is the first step for them to push their agenda. After that probably scanning and after that backdoor of encryption. It's just the same propaganda like always in the history. They try to make it less bad by approaching it step by step. So that it get's not much attention, so that no one speaks much against it. Since it's "just age verification"

But not with us!

@Tutanota This is marginally better than the original proposal.
Age verification, is easy enough to circumvent by using a VPN, connected to a server outside the EU.

@Tutanota So if I understand correctly, under the current proposal, if I wish to continue to use say Signal or WhatsApp to have video chats with my life partner I will need to verify my age and expect to have any communications scanned by the service providers.

But making a phone call to the same person from a dumb phone will not?

Or does the EU proposal want to extend age verification and the voluntary scanning of communications to more traditional telephony systems as well?

#chatcontrol

@Tutanota Die sollen sich endlich mal um wichtigere Dinge kümmern, als immer nur wie China und Nordkorea die eigenen Bürger zu überwachen. 😠

@Tutanota
I am not have own tools to _fight_ against chatControl as it is beyond my personal scope of control.
I will have to adapt.
And generally speaking, I am already ready mentally to times when I can't trust any personal stuff or even some grumpy talk to any electronic device around me.
I don't panic, I am calm. I expect I will have to be ready that a dictatorship in country where I live will introduce own "age verification" and jail time for not being hysterically happy about authorities.

@Tutanota they addiction of chat control

@Tutanota
Fighting against Chat Control should be everyone's priority right now most than ever since 2022!

Unfortunately, content about it is being censored on social media such as Facebook, were accounts were suspended for posting information about it... Denmark is doing their best to force any chance of votes from MEPs at their favor (as they did to pass it...) and to do it without citizens even noticing.

@Tutanota : ja, auch wenn der Kampf niemals endet 💪👍

@Tutanota so, does this mean National ID verification is mandatory?